“Off the Bench” Podcast (guest appearance)

Hosted by Heidi St. John, IPS President, Mike Winther, joins the “Off the Bench” podcast to discuss the role of the church during the Covid pandemic. Should the church listen the orders being decreed and follow suit? Should the church be silent? Or should the church take a stand and resist? Tune in as Heidi and Mike discuss this topic.

This podcast will be made available to listen to after the airing date at www.heidistjohn.com/blog/podcasts.

About Heidi St. John

As a popular author and speaker, Heidi St. John has been speaking on marriage, family and cultural issues for over 15 years. Her passion to encourage moms and set them free to boldly become who God has created them to be will challenge and encourage you. Heidi has been married to her college sweetheart since 1989, and their family now includes seven children and three grandchildren!  Jay and Heidi reside just outside of beautiful Vancouver, Washington, where they have homeschooled some of their kids all the way through high school and are still finishing up with a few at home.

For more information visit www.heidistjohn.com.

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Jun 07 2021


1:00 pm
Heidi St. John


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  • Mike Winther
    Mike Winther

    Michael R. Winther is the President and Founder of the Institute for Principle Studies (IPS). He sits on the Board of Scholars at the Mackinac Center for Public Policy and holds a degree in Political Science from the University of Idaho.

    As a lifelong student of history and government, Mr. Winther feels a burden to teach the important principles of government and economics — principles that were known by many of our founding fathers, but unfortunately were forgotten a generation later.