Podcast Interview with Heidi St. John

In this series of podcasts, IPS President, Mike Winther, joins Heidi St. John for two episodes on the “Off the Bench” podcast and one episode on “America’s Town Hall“. You can listen to each episode below.

For years, pastors have been telling their parishioners that they cannot speak about political issues, hiding behind their tax-exempt 501(c)3 status. But is that correct? Mike Winther and Heidi St. John talk about this very important topic.


How did our country stray so far from the Constitution and from the intended role of government? Put simply, it is a lack of education. Mike Winther and Heidi St. John talk about what a “right” is, what the role of government is, and whether or not it’s right for the government to expand the definition of what our rights should be. Rights come from God, NOT from the government!


Many freedom loving Americans are asking questions they never imagined they would ask about their government: when do we rebel? Is it prudent? When is it practical? The reasons these questions are being asked are obvious: in a gross overreaction to Covid, we have allowed the civil government to strip away the freedom of millions of Americans—and the results have been disastrous, paving the way for even more government overreach in the months and years to come. The job of government is NOT to protect us (our health, etc), it is to protect our God-given rights. Join Mike and Heidi as they discuss this subject.


About Heidi St. John

Heidi has been married to her husband Jay since 1989. Together they have seven children and three grandchildren! The St. Johns homeschooled their kids all the way through high school. Heidi is the the author of seven books, host of the popular podcast “Off the Bench,” and the founder of MomStrong International, an online community of women learning God’s Word and how to apply it to every day life. She and her husband Jay are also the founders of Firmly Planted Family and the Firmly Planted Homeschool Resource Center, located in Vancouver, Washington. Learn more at www.heidistjohn.com.